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Oct 16, 2012 10:42:51 GMT -5
Post by Tame on Oct 16, 2012 10:42:51 GMT -5
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Oct 17, 2012 9:07:29 GMT -5
Post by DawgX on Oct 17, 2012 9:07:29 GMT -5
HAahah 21 Grams!
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Oct 17, 2012 9:58:10 GMT -5
Post by Tame on Oct 17, 2012 9:58:10 GMT -5
www.mangareader.net/gantz/372I didn't see Kurono 2 dying so immediately and ignominisously. Ah well. Now that their mission's getting back to Earth, Kurono 1 already there and Kurono 2 being dead, is Kato gonna be the main character for the next portion?
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Oct 17, 2012 11:54:32 GMT -5
Post by Amphyess on Oct 17, 2012 11:54:32 GMT -5
the cover page was pretty epic but as for this chapter it can be summed up in three words BULLSHIT PHILOSOPHICAL COP-OUT. It was stupid I mean I assumed Kei 2 was going to die but not such an anticlimactic death. Then the bullshit gram data "explanation". Hell why not have Sei Sakuraoka "data" be reprocessed as the father to this bullshit Reika scenario. I really think the aliens were sick of answering question and told the humans this so they have something to hold onto. God this chapter is my last straw I'm only reading the rest of gantz just because I'm this far in might as well right. But it has started to become one of my least favorite mangas of all time.
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Oct 17, 2012 13:06:15 GMT -5
Post by ashleysherrinjones on Oct 17, 2012 13:06:15 GMT -5
....he was like POOF, gone n shiz!
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Oct 17, 2012 14:53:10 GMT -5
Post by DawgX on Oct 17, 2012 14:53:10 GMT -5
The 21 Grams that the alien was talking about is probably how the dead are chosen to fight in Gantz. The black spheres are able to process the 21 Grams of information and resurrect them back into the real world, or, our dimension.
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Oct 17, 2012 15:47:58 GMT -5
Post by ashleysherrinjones on Oct 17, 2012 15:47:58 GMT -5
Agreed, either snatch the data or copy it as its sent. But its acknowledging that humans DO have souls!
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Oct 17, 2012 17:42:30 GMT -5
Post by DawgX on Oct 17, 2012 17:42:30 GMT -5
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Oct 18, 2012 6:59:33 GMT -5
Post by Haloninjaman808 on Oct 18, 2012 6:59:33 GMT -5
Looks like Oka has been doing his research. One of the Journals i've read in college so far has mentioned something about how an airtight room is 21-22 grams lighter once a person dies in it. That is their soul apparently
As a Buddhist and a psychology fan, this chapter had me nerdgasming. The whole topic of souls and reincarnation was admitted and I gotta say, this was pretty fucking genius.
For me personally, this one chapter made up for all the shitty ones in Phase 3.
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Nov 1, 2012 11:58:31 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Nov 1, 2012 11:58:31 GMT -5
This song is fitting.
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Nov 1, 2012 14:12:21 GMT -5
Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Nov 1, 2012 14:12:21 GMT -5
I find it funny that 21 is my lucky number and the theory's number is 21. Anywho, not sure why I hadn't looked at this when it came out. Regardless, it wasn't /that/ bad. And I'm determined to finish reading this manga.
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Nov 2, 2012 5:41:21 GMT -5
Post by Tame on Nov 2, 2012 5:41:21 GMT -5
I find it funny that 21 is my lucky number and the theory's number is 21. Cosmic.
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Nov 2, 2012 13:47:58 GMT -5
Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Nov 2, 2012 13:47:58 GMT -5
I find it funny that 21 is my lucky number and the theory's number is 21. Cosmic. Coincidence? I think not.
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Dec 21, 2012 10:36:36 GMT -5
Post by selloutboy on Dec 21, 2012 10:36:36 GMT -5
I love this stuff on a philosophical level. Hey, cool, we've got references to the 21 grams theory, implications that the Gantz balls may be cutting and pasting people's entire identities to and from reality and/or history (which is super scary and fascinating), and confirmation in the existence of the human soul that somehow seems WORSE than not having souls exist at all. Seriously, nice details.
My problem with this and the other Room of Truth chapters is that they don't make sense on a narrative level, as I've said before. Why are these "higher" life forms sharing all of this information with humans and carefully explaining all of this stuff if they feel nothing but indifference or contempt for the human race? Contrast this with The Call of Cthulhu by H. P. Lovecraft: the titular creature, like these Room of Truth beings, is an alien so powerful that it seems godlike to humans. The difference is this: Cthulhu "contacts" psychic people in their sleep accidentally, as just a side effect of its power, and doesn't deliberately explain anything to lowly humans, while the Room of Truth dudes are going out of their way to have a press conference for the hunters.
I just don't get it...unless they're just doing it to troll people for fun, like Sebastian did with the reporter in Germany. If the manga goes on later to reveal that this omnipotent beings are just screwing with humanity out of boredom, then at least their motivation will make sense again. Please let me be right about this one, Oku; I really want to love this series as much as I used to.
EDIT: Oh, and if you ask me, the way the second Kurono got killed off was a waste of another awesome subplot that could have gone somewhere good. Ugh!
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