CajunFX
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Post by CajunFX on May 23, 2010 20:10:46 GMT -5
From what I am reading so far, I find it quite a tragedy that has happened to the forum. I know my word isn't worth a dime here, but i believe the dude really eff'ed up on what he has done. Though of what has happened, it's pretty admiring ya'll keeping it together. With that only i think you guys will pretty much be the last ones standing. (in a matter of speaking)
As of Hawaii, I myself will take it seriously. Serious, but fun. I find roleplaying to be a sort of story telling. I am a sucker for fanfiction(as i spent a few days going through the post and reading it as if it was a story) and the creativity of all of you fine people is remarkable. I applaud you all.
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Post by DawgX on May 23, 2010 20:15:54 GMT -5
From what I am reading so far, I find it quite a tragedy that has happened to the forum. I know my word isn't worth a dime here, but i believe the dude really eff'ed up on what he has done. Though of what has happened, it's pretty admiring ya'll keeping it together. With that only i think you guys will pretty much be the last ones standing. (in a matter of speaking) As of Hawaii, I myself will take it seriously. Serious, but fun. I find roleplaying to be a sort of story telling. I am a sucker for fanfiction(as i spent a few days going through the post and reading it as if it was a story) and the creativity of all of you fine people is remarkable. I applaud you all. Thanks Cajun. I actually smiled when u said we are creative. What rps did you read? Osaka? Tokyo? All?
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CajunFX
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Post by CajunFX on May 23, 2010 20:34:09 GMT -5
I don't want to sound off topic, but i am reading currently the Tokyo Missions, after i get around mission 3 i'd want to jump onto the Osaka bangwagon and starting reading from there up. It'd be kick ass if you guys mold it up into a story, It'd be one quite story to tell.
Ontopic: Yeah you guys really are something. The way you guys keep it together and organized, you guys keep it fun, but when you have, you guys are serious enough to get the message across when need to.
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Post by DawgX on May 23, 2010 22:18:17 GMT -5
I don't want to sound off topic, but i am reading currently the Tokyo Missions, after i get around mission 3 i'd want to jump onto the Osaka bangwagon and starting reading from there up. It'd be kick ass if you guys mold it up into a story, It'd be one quite story to tell. Ontopic: Yeah you guys really are something. The way you guys keep it together and organized, you guys keep it fun, but when you have, you guys are serious enough to get the message across when need to. *tears up* Th-thx you so much.... A story would be an awesome idea. Especially for Osaka.
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Post by empressofangels on May 24, 2010 17:48:35 GMT -5
I don't want to sound off topic, but i am reading currently the Tokyo Missions, after i get around mission 3 i'd want to jump onto the Osaka bangwagon and starting reading from there up. It'd be kick ass if you guys mold it up into a story, It'd be one quite story to tell. Ontopic: Yeah you guys really are something. The way you guys keep it together and organized, you guys keep it fun, but when you have, you guys are serious enough to get the message across when need to. did i tell you lately that i love your avatar? well i do.
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Post by Oka Ace on May 24, 2010 20:35:45 GMT -5
Ren your post was inspiring. A comepltely beuatiful and relevent piece of posting work. It made me so emotional I didn't respond. Haha.
And thanks Cajun, we have worked hard and we'll continue to do so. With your help if you want to.
I like the activity lately dudes.
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CajunFX
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Post by CajunFX on May 25, 2010 22:08:21 GMT -5
Rogue: hahah yeah you did. loud and clear @oku Ace: I'd be glad to help out with anything, just say the word dude.
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Post by Oka Ace on May 26, 2010 12:36:05 GMT -5
Word! just kidding.
Get into a few more missions and you'll likely move up fast. I'm a pretty generous guy.
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Post by DawgX on May 26, 2010 13:12:41 GMT -5
Get into a few more missions and you'll likely move up fast. I'm a pretty generous guy. Yeah. Look at wat ur niceness did.
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Post by CajunFX on May 26, 2010 22:51:01 GMT -5
Hahah alright chief, i'll get around while i still can in them missions.
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Post by ronnie on Jun 1, 2010 3:33:01 GMT -5
Wow, I never even noticed this thread until now and I have to say I'm sort of appalled at the shit I've read as well as all the accussations. I mean not once have I even badmouthed a few of these people posting things about me and some of them I don't even know. I'm also shocked at DawgX and Ace who I happened to grow fond of! So everyone hates me and thinks that I was conspiring against them since the begining...Wow...that's a shock and a bit much, but that just goes to show how easily people can show their true colors.
Part of me wants to turn the other cheek, but the other compells me to call you all out and tell you that you're fucking crazy and remind you that your shit don't stink.
Welp, I got my marshmallows, let's have a roast.
Let me start from the beginning...
When I came here it was long after I had assumed that Second Chances had died and Jpimpin and I had enrolled in college. I had heard from Kbell via phone that you guys existed, and I was considering the idea of role-playing Gantz once again, becaused I missed it. Little did I know that you guys stole our shit, no no...let me rephrase that. You guys made a forum and then inserted things that you liked AND then thought, "hey, this site, Second Chances, has a good Gantz role-play, let's steal their ideas and incorporate a Gantz Role-play it into our forum." Your administrator assumed that no one would care that their ideas were being stolen and used on an inferior role-play.
That was until Xeno showed up...
Xeno was on Second Chances long before he came to Gantz Players and he was supposed to be next in-line for training for a moderating position. Unfortunately, the site became inactive for a multitude of reasons and he migrated here. So, after stealing his aliens, giving him a mod spot and criticising his modding abilities without telling him how he can improve, you label him a traitor?
Xeno aside...
I focused on at least making sure that Second Chances was credited for the shit you stole, and that didn't happen until I had to make a big stink about it. When Ace wouldn't do it, I gained respect for Dawgx when he did it instead, thus showing that perhaps this site had some sort of an Admin team.
Note: Once again...I'm still baffled why Dawgx has beef with me, never once have I said anything ill toward him, but if that's how it is. I guess I have no choice but to say fuck you too...
After we recieved credit, I'll admit I was still annoyed that it took so long when it was such a simple request, but I got over it and began considering whether or not I wanted to roleplay on your site. Unfortunately, the role-play rules and mechanics you guys pirated were too advanced for you guys and were pretty much being wasted due to the fact that no one, except Sykee and Somnus knew how to post an action in character that was credible as far as role-playing is concerned. Everyone else's posts, including Mod posts were barely even a paragraph. That's sad...
After laughing at you, I considered helping you, but instead of allowing me to do that I was constantly treated as if I had no idea what the fuck I was talking about, even though it was obvious that I had a major hand in developing what your role-play was using as a reference.
Note: I sorta took that as a big insult, but I blamed it on your ignorance.
During this time I had a lot of free time in college and I could be found on Gantz Players, posting in random threads and arguing with the 'troll' known as Renan. Yeah the guy that's allowed to shit on everyone, including newcomers, as he pleases. Rather than take his shit, I smooshed it in his face, and he told me he liked me as a member because of it.
Note: Weirdo...
Later on, I came across an interesting thread. The thread called out to all members who had once been on Second Chances and migrated to Gantz Players. I was surprised to see so many still interested in bringing back Second Chances. For awihle I thought about whether or not to do this, and the answer became clear. I wanted back the old role-play, and I wasn't about to settle for a cheap, pirated, imitation of what a REAL Gantz role-play was. Benry, Kbell, Dane, Jpimpin and Xeno agreed.
So I got to work, organizing the forum and handing out positions until I had an epiphany. The epiphany was that between Gantz Players and Second Chances was probably one of the largest sum of Gantz Role-players on the web, active and inactive. So I figured, why not try and unite them as one...
Gantz Players would offer active members that could improve in writing and roleplaying with our experienced instruction.
Note: It seemed like a good idea at the time...
So Kbell and myself, the two site Administrators, asked Ace if he'd like to consider merging forums.
Note: Ace is so ass-backwards, at first he wants to do something, then he doesn't, then he does, then he doesn't and then he presents the idea to the forum in a way that doesn't clearly state the pros and cons.
Moving on...Ace seems interested and begins discussing with us how the merge will take place. Our focus is on the role-play being the main focus of the merged forum and his is discussion, to the point where he states that it should be above the announcements category and at the top of the forum.
Note: 9/10 forums never do this, because discussion boards like general talk gain the importance of announcements at the top of the forum, in which means "trolls" like Renan get to post their spam threads and have them viewed as if they were important.
Eventually it got to the point where Ace wasn't interested in compromising at all as far as the merge was concerned and came off completely unprofessional. This lead to him prematurely broadcasting the "idea" of merging before we actually "wanted" to merge. Ace was only supposed to post a poll about whether or not the forum would mind if general talk was placed at the bottom of the forum, because in actuality we weren't even sure if a merge was even going to take place.
Note: Never try to discuss anything in private with Ace, because he seems to have a hole in his bean bag, so he spills his beans.
This lead to him looking like an idiot in his poll, and forced me to explain what the hell was going on.
Note: He made sure to thank me, but from then on I began being labeled as a kidnapper. Thanks Ace, I made sure to give you Gantz Points for that one....
Thus it was decided that an Administrator like Ace wasn't something we wanted to risk for obvious reasons, despite him having experience with coding. We preferred to learn it ourselves or atleast hoped he'd be willing to help like he had offered.
Note: Thanks for the help with the coding Ace! >.>
We also scrapped the idea of the forum merge and figured that if you guys wanted to role-play gantz, you could come and enjoy it on our site and if you wanted to play chatroom you could do it on Gantz Players.
Note: Simply IM Baller to initiate the cyber sex...
That left us with Dane, Kbell, Jpimpin and myself, attempting to revive Second Chances. I didn't expect it to be easy, but after a lengthy global email, we were shocked at how many people were still interested in giving it another go.
Not long after we were establishing a decent mod and admin team, Ace wandered back onto our site and bumped his old "Second Chances is dead whether you like it or not, ooooh come to gantz players, because I stole your shit and continued it!" thread. He mentioned the fact that he sounded like a dick and even went as far as to edit his post.
Note: Way to save face, Ace!
After seeing this I began seeing Ace in a new light. I figured, hey, he's not a bad guy. I scratch his back, he scratches mine. So I posted a thread on Gantz players, and informed him of everyone I recruited, because I had nothing to hide.
Note: I remember this one guy named Haloninjaman, said he wanted to mod, and instead of concentrating on applying for the position he spammed our general talk, bumping old threads. If I wanted a troll/spammer I would've asked you to bring your butt buddy Renan along. Lol, and I find it funny that the same guy who talks shit about me now is the same guy who wanted me to mod Manga and Anime on Gantz players. But like I said before, people show their true colors, eh? Haloninjaman, I made sure to roast that marshmallow just for you. Oh and Craz, I can't even roast on your level, because you wanted to go by the name of badstinky...your ass is flammable.
Anyways...
I had a lot of plans for my forum, and I still do, but to my dismay, I'm unable to carry them out. That's why I resigned from my position, but even though that may be the case I'm still willing to share my ideas. However, after reading this thread I couldn't help, but bring some things to light, because I think everyone needs to hear both sides of the story, and I find mine quite hilarious in comparison to the one you've had fun fabricating.
I'll probably be banned for this, but if I am banned I'd prefer that my post not be deleted, because it'd only make those mentioned look pitiful. It also isn't that far from what you might see Renan post, and it isn't even an announcement this time.
Anyways...if this is my last post due to being banned, I'd like to give a shout out to Fayyra, Rogue, Somnus and Sykee. If I had a top 5 on here you guys would be on it with me at the top of course lol...Just kidding.
Also, I'm not mad at you guys. I just figured you needed to hear what I thought of your comments and since they were so well expressed I figured they deserved a response.
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Post by DawgX on Jun 1, 2010 6:09:18 GMT -5
I focused on at least making sure that Second Chances was credited for the shit you stole, and that didn't happen until I had to make a big stink about it. When Ace wouldn't do it, I gained respect for Dawgx when he did it instead, thus showing that perhaps this site had some sort of an Admin team. Note: Once again...I'm still baffled why Dawgx has beef with me, never once have I said anything ill toward him, but if that's how it is. I guess I have no choice but to say fuck you too... I dont give a shit about any of that other stuff u said about the forum and the other members. But what u said about me was completely wrong. I never said anything about a '®onnie' not once in my post. I have no beef with YOU at all. Its all Xeno and this second chance whatever that Ace brought on us. How the fuck were we supposed to know he stole ur 'rules' and 'mechanics' and your aliens? I like how the minute it seems like we "HATE" u, you show YOUR true colors and say what you REALLY wanted to say. Honestly im not sadden by Xenos defection. Its obvious to me that Second Chances used us as s booster and now that their back on their feet we arent needed anymore. This whole Second Chances thing fucked us over. Srsly. Thats what I said. I never once said: "Fuck Ronnie. SO fuck Ronnie he sucks. I hate Ronnie. I have BEEF with Ronnie. Go Die Ronnie." Also, I'm not mad at you guys. It sounds like ur pretty upset to me. U wrote a motherfuckin essay about us. Got way up in them feelings, huh? Srsly, Ronnie. Maybe me and you can talk about this in a pm? Black man to black man? No. Brutha to brutha? Nvm.. Ill send you a pm? I'll probably be banned for this, but if I am banned I'd prefer that my post not be deleted, because it'd only make those mentioned look pitiful. It also isn't that far from what you might see Renan post, and it isn't even an announcement this time. Anyways...if this is my last post due to being banned, I'd like to give a shout out to Fayyra, Rogue, Somnus and Sykee. If I had a top 5 on here you guys would be on it with me at the top of course lol...Just kidding. Also, I'm not mad at you guys. I just figured you needed to hear what I thought of your comments and since they were so well expressed I figured they deserved a response. Why the hell would someone ban u for speakin ur mind? Thats like me walkin up to Oprah Winfrey and telling her that fucking her was like fucking a dry patatoe. Think she'd ban me from her show?
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Post by Renan on Jun 1, 2010 13:31:31 GMT -5
Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie... It's been a while hasn't it? I really did like you and I honestly was fond of you. I'm not going to lie, you were a VERY good poster. And although I did have suspicions of you in no way did I ever lose respect for you. Even now, when flaming us beyond belief do I lose respect for you. I still like you and I am upsetted by the fact you haven't caught on to the fact that I take very little things seriously. However, a line has been crossed and I guess it's time I throw away the little troll act and grow up. All the points you made are valid except the true colors parts. You of all people should know how people are. They follow you like a stray dog. If you give them food they'll want more. All the users on the site are like this. Odds are nobody would have said something if Ace, Dawg, and I hadn't posted what we did. Halo and Craz just followed the pack, they tried to fit in. Don't blame them. They're young, they don't fully understand how thigns work, but they're still my friends and I don't appreciate how you can so easily shit on them despite not doing anything major, of course I am in no position to talk since I made it look as if I hated everyone on Secodn Chances. This of course is not true. If Xeno were to ever come back I would welcome him with open arms since he was a good friend of mine despite what I said.
I would also like to apologize for how I treat the new users on this site. It's a little rude and uncalled for, but for the most part it's fun. I do however understand how this can come off as offensive so from this point on I will refrain from making comments about new users. I would like either Dawg or Ace to delete that false argument in the pictures topic since it of course can be seen in a wrong light instead of in a humurous way. I know this is no redemption, but right now it is all I can do.
Ronnie, this one is to you personally. You have always, without a doubt been my friend. I may say I don't like you and I may say hurtful things, but I never once wished anything bad to happen to you. We argued and we fought, but I assumed you knew it was in good humor, but you're more mature than I am and you took me on a serious level. For this I apologize for my immaturity. If one person gave you a bad image of Gantz Players userbase it was me without a doubt. I'm the one you're made at right now, I'm the one who threw fuel into the fire for his own amusemnt and I should be the only one to suffer the consequences. Ace and Dawg, I'm leavign my fate in Ronnie's hands. If he wants me banned so be it, it can be seen as a peace offering of sorts. I just want all this nonsense to end right now. This will be my last post until a verdict is reached.
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Post by Oka Ace on Jun 1, 2010 13:56:29 GMT -5
I don't care about saving face or doing the right "thing". All I care about is Gantz Players and Gantz itself.
I'm not going to be pulled into some arguement based on some misplaced idea of self righteousness. I've made mistakes, sure. But I haven't been plotting and scheming to steal, and rave like a blood sucking vampire either.
I didn't want General above announcments, I wanted General above the roleplay. THATS where we couldn't comprimise. Don't change things around. Also like everyone agreed, we don't want to RP your way, that doesn't make us stupid. If you want to call us stupid because we don't see things your way thats your problem not ours.
Fact is you would be still dead if it weren't for me. In my opinion that more than makes up for me stealing your ideas. Look at me I have nothing to hide. I'm sure all my members have forgiven me for that, all thats left are second chancers that I have no jurisdiction over anyway.
And I also changed that topic because it was trhe right thing to do, I went over there to talk Gantz and I as going to help until I realised that your weren't going to scratch me back either right?
I mean the problem here is, like we each came to get from what happened is that you came in, used us and left without so much as a goodbye handshake. It's what happened right? The people who we expected and came to know as one of us, couldn't atleast stick with us and be over there. Which I would have done. You and Xeno from my stance were one of us once you contributed to the community, I was hurt that you would leave. And to an extent Calcus and benry were there too.
You know initally reading your post halfway through I was like "ok im going to ban this motherfucker" But now I'm thinking, be mad. Be offended, Be the right guy on your side. I wasn't trying to make sides, the community was and I jumped on the bandwagon. Thats what this topic was, a big smiling sense of betrayal. And you never made a clear indication that it wasn't.
I warn you though, watch what you say in the future. I'm not going to let a post like that slide again.
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Post by ronnie on Jun 1, 2010 15:06:15 GMT -5
WATCH ME DO IT! First off, I'd like to take back what I said about Renan not changing. I'm glad you've matured some, and hopefully you can continue to do so. DawgX, I could care less about being hated as long as it's a legitament reason. The things I'm being accused of are ridiculous, and rather than have you guys talk about me and Second Chances as if we wronged you, I'd prefer to lay all the cards on the table. Some people on Gantz Players aren't as innocent as they appear, and if anything, they should be willing to read shit about them if they're willing to write shit about us. We're being accussed of stealing members and using your site as a booster. My response to this is that instead of treating your members like cattle, how about you address the issue at hand instead of pointing fingers like children. Accept the fact that people left your site for a reason other than treason. They liked something about our site that they didn't like about yours. I'm also getting tired of seeing members like Benry, Calcus and Xeno being branded as property of Gantz Players. If anything, they were on Second Chances first, but who says they aren't allowed to be a member of any other site or forum? We don't own them. And never once did I encourage recruited members to leave Gantz Players. I encouraged them to be involved on both sites, as was I. However, allow me to address DawgX once again. You said, "I like how the minute it seems like we "HATE" u, you show YOUR true colors and say what you REALLY wanted to say." Well I love how the momment someone posts a thread accusing us of being apart of some conspiracy, everyone all of a sudden has something to add. Yes, all the people who were so eager to mention Ronnie in their Top 10 member list, were just waiting for an opportunity to show their true colors. And no, I'm not mad, because the people who slandered us were members that I really didn't have much respect for anyways. If anything, DawgX was the only one I respected out of the lot, and I'll admit that I've gained some for Renan in the process. However, why should I sit here and allow you guys to talk about others when you have hardly looked in the mirror at yourself. Your reflection is ugly, and Ace of all people should have turned to stone by now. I'd also like to address Ace when he states, "Fact is you would be still dead if it weren't for me. In my opinion that more than makes up for me stealing your ideas. Look at me I have nothing to hide. I'm sure all my members have forgiven me for that, all thats left are second chancers that I have no jurisdiction over anyway." I'd love to give you credit where it's due, but Ace, you've done absolutely nothing. And I'm sure you would love to take credit and live on with a clear conscience, but you ruined that for yourself. I gave you a chance to redeem yourself by giving our site credit for what was stolen, but I had to ask DawgX to do it for you. If you want to give someone credit, I'd give it to your members for once as well as the ones who migrated from Second Chances. They were the ones that made the thread that sparked the idea of bringing Second Chances back! I'm also sure your members have forgiven you, but you didn't steal from your members, you stole from us. I'd also like to state that never have I ever hidden any kind of agenda from anyone. Neither have I ever acted a certain way in order to get what I've wanted. If that were the case I could've simply accepted the mod position Halo offered me and worked my way up to the Admin position that was then offered to me by either DawgX or Ace. If I wanted to kill your site, I had the opportunity to do just that, and if that isn't saying a lot, whoever that thinks otherwise is a moron. I also don't plan on leaving, unless I'm banned by Ace for expressing my opinion, in which DawgX said was allowed. Hell, I don't even recall ever leaving, but neither was there a contract I signed when I registered that instructed me not to come and go as I please. Anyways...I'm done for now unless encouraged to respond.
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