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Post by Freya on Feb 18, 2012 20:36:44 GMT -5
i think our universe is an atom to another universe. i mean our planet could be a cell or bacteria to something else for all we know.
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Post by Soul2Sell on Feb 21, 2012 3:20:56 GMT -5
You either believe or you don't. my explanation is I believe I'm just not entirely convinced making me a neutral party cause I can agree with points on either side this isn't the matrix Morphis its not do or do not edit: agnosticism is the belief that there's no way of knowing for sure if there's a god or a deity but there not ruling out the idea of it either creating neutral position. just because i believe there's no way of know there's a god for sure doesn't mean he doesn't exist.... still not sure if Im a strong agnostic or a weak agnostic depends who I'm talking to I guess -Strong agnosticism -The view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities, and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you." -Weak agnosticism -The view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable; therefore, one will withhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day, when there is evidence, we can find something out." hope my answer was better clarified although now that i think about it all are beliefs could be aliens like stargate
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Post by princezpiech on Feb 28, 2012 6:07:39 GMT -5
i don't believe in god but i have a horrible feeling that if i'd die i'd go to hell. its like i really dont believe in god but if he does exist so does Satan and i'd prolly get sent to hell for not believing even though I am a good person and never really done anything terrible. This is one of the many reasons why I am not only an Atheist, but something of an anti-theist. These religions fear monger people into obedience, it's fucked. I remember when I was like 7 years old I was terrified of going to hell. In my opinion, indoctrinating your children into religion & injecting the fear of eternal torture into their minds is borderline child abuse.
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Post by princezpiech on Feb 28, 2012 6:21:49 GMT -5
You either believe or you don't. my explanation is I believe I'm just not entirely convinced making me a neutral party cause I can agree with points on either side this isn't the matrix Morphis its not do or do not edit: agnosticism is the belief that there's no way of knowing for sure if there's a god or a deity but there not ruling out the idea of it either creating neutral position. just because i believe there's no way of know there's a god for sure doesn't mean he doesn't exist.... still not sure if Im a strong agnostic or a weak agnostic depends who I'm talking to I guess -Strong agnosticism -The view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities, and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you." -Weak agnosticism -The view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable; therefore, one will withhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day, when there is evidence, we can find something out." hope my answer was better clarified although now that i think about it all are beliefs could be aliens like stargate Well, technically, everyone is an agnostic. I'm not cocksure in my Atheism, because I cannot be. We haven't progressed to the point of scientifically measuring what happens in the afterlife, and I realize no one can be certain. By definition, I am an Agnostic. Although I feel that, based on the flaws in religion and the scientific studies on the origin of life & the universe, the theory of a creator doesn't really make sense. So I am an Agnostic-Atheist. I view agnostics as people who do have a basic opinion on the topic, they just prefer to remain neutral as to not offend either party.
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Post by Fay on Mar 1, 2012 22:48:22 GMT -5
We haven't progressed to the point of scientifically measuring what happens in the afterlife, and I realize no one can be certain. We can scientifically measure what happens after our life if over. Someone dies, their primary bodily functions all eventually stop, the body decomposes over many varying different rates unless A; you're frozen/chemically exposed or B; you're a newborn that hasn't ate (lol). In which case you become a mummy. Now, this doesn't mean there cannot possibly be an afterlife. It's not a mathematical possibility, but it is a possibility in the loose sense. But the point I'm making is that you have to assume an afterlife exists in order for us to be capable of measuring it. You see what you did there? What if we ARE capable of recording all that happens after life, and the only reason we don't seem capable of measuring what happens in an afterlife is because there is none? I'm making a differentiation between "after life" and "afterlife", here. "After life" is simply what we have recorded as after one dies. "Afterlife" already assumes there is something more. Overall point: Careful how you word stuff. You don't believe in an afterlife but you just sounded like you thought it existed. This is just semantics, that's all. Not trying to fuck with you, just saying there's nothing wrong with being more specific and less vague. It's....just more cool, that's all. I probably would have said "if there is an afterlife, then science has not yet progressed to the point in which it can measure it." or something. =|
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Post by Gemini on Mar 2, 2012 4:57:41 GMT -5
I personally believe that most religion (sorry Vikings and Huns, your excluded) is mainly built to create Utopia, heaven on earth. I think that a good portion of religion that has survived has tried to build the world up. Buddhism, teaching you to respect all life and harmony, Christianity, teaching people to respect each other, Atheism, teaching you to live for the now, etc... They all teach things and all are an aspect of one grand idea... well to me at least. They all have downsides, but all have upsides.
As for my "God or No God" beliefs, I am entirely unsure. I pray to a higher being for the souls of the dead, but I don't know if I actually believe in it or if I am just trying to convince myself that I am a "good" person who cares for others. Personally, I find it irrelavent. If a superior being exists that can judge us, fine, nothing I can do about it. If not, its still nice to remember the dead and what they died for, as a courtesy to those who lived their lives. As long as we leave the world closer to a utopia for future generations, maybe it will eventually become a heaven on earth.
Well, thats just my beliefs. I don't really mind anyone's beliefs. The only belief I strongly disagree with is any belief that uses the word "Damn." To be able to see something in it's entirety, you must remove yourself from the test experiment. The only way you have authority to "Damn." or "Absolve." is if you are no longer human and no longer part of this world (maybe an alien.), and even then, I don't want to be told that I am damned or absolved by something that doesn't feel what we do.
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