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Post by princezpiech on Feb 12, 2012 7:28:44 GMT -5
Personally I'm an Atheist. Since I was 13 I've been listening to people talk about Atheism on YouTube, I've read articles and books, and argued with theists quite actively. Throughout it all I've become pretty strong in my lack of belief. Along with my lack of belief in God or Gods, I don't believe in any supernatural forces. No karma, no afterlife, nada. What do I believe in? I believe that, because there is no afterlife to look forward to, I must seize the day and enjoy the life I am certain I possess. What about you?
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Post by Haloninjaman808 on Feb 12, 2012 14:38:14 GMT -5
Buddhist. Nuff said for me at the moment. Too tired to explain it since when i say i am Buddhist, people always give me shit since they don't know the actual guidelines to the religion itself.
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Post by DawgX on Feb 12, 2012 22:03:20 GMT -5
I dont think this topic is allowed. -waits for Ace-
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Post by Fay on Feb 12, 2012 23:11:01 GMT -5
What do I believe in? I believe that, because there is no afterlife to look forward to, I must seize the day and enjoy the life I am certain I possess. What about you? <3 I'm an atheist myself. We've had a topic about this before, actually. Kind of: gantzplayers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=606I was younger then, so I was basically repeating things I heard from other's back then. Not to say that what I said back then wasn't (mostly) valid, but I'm much more intelligent now, and would be happy to explain in great detail why religion's illogical if anyone would like. ----------------------------------- I was raised catholic/christian/whateverthefuck. My Mom sent me to a church class thing, in order to get my communion and then eventually go on to get my confirmation. During prep for my communion, I was 12 at the time, I started thinking to myself..."this shit is fucking stupid." Ok. Let me back up. When I was like 9 or 10, I prayed to God to make me like a super hero. When that didn't come true I was like..."maybe God's not real?" So technically that's when it really first started. I was in the stupid hour-long class thing (that was like once per week), thinking to myself..."seriously, what the fuck?" God's this thing in the sky that has never shown himself and can control and make the world around us with a whim? Jesus resurrected from the dead? A fucking talking snake convinced Eve to convince Adam to eat a fruit which gave them knowledge? Forever burning bushes, a Giant, an Arc full of animals to protect them from a world-wide flood, etc. All of these just started to sound like the little made up stories and fairy tails and shit that I was told (and made up myself/told to others sometimes) as a kid. So that's really when I started thinking about it logically. Then at about 15-16 I got online and started seeing other's take on it. Atheism is a lot more prevalent online because people don't have to worry about the social rejection. From there on is where I picked up on the basic logic of it. Of how religion was lacking logic, skepticism, and so forth. I obviously had some level of skepticism when I was 12, but I honestly didn't understand the basic logic of it. The "anything's possible, but because of that, we need proof to tell us what is." Needless to say, I still pretended I believed, and went all the way through the communion. A little while after, right before I graduated high school, I told my mom and I no longer pretend. I'm no longer a little pussy about it. My Mom's really into God and shit. Fucking shit, it's always "God this...and God that..." Anyway, as for what I believe in? Anything that is logically valid/makes sense/has proof behind it. Really that simple. As far as principles to live by goes.. I really don't care about a lot of things regarding that nature. But there are some I do. Like not being a pussy. I like that, a lot. Always being true to yourself, never truly backing down, shit like that.
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Post by Soul2Sell on Feb 12, 2012 23:52:27 GMT -5
agnostic simple as that
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Post by Fay on Feb 13, 2012 3:24:55 GMT -5
You either believe or you don't. The only way to "believe and disbelieve" is by not thinking about it period. Having no consciousness whatsoever. It's like being a rock. A rock doesn't believe in god, but doesn't not believe, either. My rock is truly "agnostic" in the definition that you're most likely trying to use it now. You SHOULD NOT BE like a rock, because you have conscious knowledge on what God/the religion is, and thus automatically either accept god as real or do not. Even if you don't know whether or not God's real, you either assume it is or is not, the reason I know this is because you either go about your daily life as if God is real or you don't. One equals you came to one assumption while the other equals that you came to another. It's a dichotomy. Those who don't know whether or not they think God is real, are those who don't want to consciously make a decision on the subject (though they can't escape the afteraffects of doing it anyway). Like being a rock. I don't know whether God's real. But I know I don't think it is. The reason being is I'm not praying to it, I don't act like it's going to save me, I don't actively think about it as real, etc.
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Post by Oka Ace on Feb 13, 2012 15:06:46 GMT -5
This topics fine. It only goes against the tos if someone tries to preach and spread their beliefs onto others. You can discuss whether god exists and stuff but no hating on someone who is religous or vice versa
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Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Feb 13, 2012 17:35:28 GMT -5
I'm a non-practicing Catholic. I believe God exists, I believe in the Devil. I'll just do whatever I want - I'd rather not kiss so much ass like all the evil people that go to church in hopes of "redeeming" myself. If you're a good person, you're going to Heaven. If you're Evil, you're going to Hell. Whichever it is for me, I don't give a shit and I'll do what I want until I die.
Also: I believe souls from limbo are allowed to be reincarnated for a "second try", and others in Purgatory are forced to try again.
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Post by DawgX on Feb 13, 2012 19:30:26 GMT -5
but I'm much more intelligent now Id describe my "religion" as a forced-practiced Christianity. Like Fayrra said, he was younger back then and not as (I dont want to say intelligent) wise (a better description than intelligent) as I am now. My parents make me goto church if Im not doing anything on Sundays. Other than that, I dont believe in following a specific kind of Christianity. I dont believe that going inside a building every Sunday and putting on their "Sunday hat/best" on will make them and all the "bad/sinful" things they do during the week, fine. I believe everyone has their on opinion on God and everything pertaining to him. So I would say im a non-Denominational Christian while my family practices the Church of Christ type of Christianity.
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Post by Rogue on Feb 15, 2012 11:15:44 GMT -5
Ofcourse the lezbian whore has to bring religion up on GP. Go figure.
"I am like...Socrates. He was a philosopher!!" xD
NEways, I dont care for religion. It's too much hassle. I'll respect others beliefs... but I really don't care either way.
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Post by βeηrγ on Feb 15, 2012 13:10:13 GMT -5
What do I believe in? I believe that, because there is no afterlife to look forward to, I must seize the day and enjoy the life I am certain I possess. What about you? <3 I'm an atheist myself. We've had a topic about this before, actually. Kind of: gantzplayers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=606I was younger then, so I was basically repeating things I heard from other's back then. Not to say that what I said back then wasn't (mostly) valid, but I'm much more intelligent now, and would be happy to explain in great detail why religion's illogical if anyone would like. ----------------------------------- I was raised catholic/christian/whateverthefuck. My Mom sent me to a church class thing, in order to get my communion and then eventually go on to get my confirmation. During prep for my communion, I was 12 at the time, I started thinking to myself..."this shit is fucking stupid." Ok. Let me back up. When I was like 9 or 10, I prayed to God to make me like a super hero. When that didn't come true I was like..."maybe God's not real?" So technically that's when it really first started. I was in the stupid hour-long class thing (that was like once per week), thinking to myself..."seriously, what the fuck?" God's this thing in the sky that has never shown himself and can control and make the world around us with a whim? Jesus resurrected from the dead? A fucking talking snake convinced Eve to convince Adam to eat a fruit which gave them knowledge? Forever burning bushes, a Giant, an Arc full of animals to protect them from a world-wide flood, etc. All of these just started to sound like the little made up stories and fairy tails and shit that I was told (and made up myself/told to others sometimes) as a kid. So that's really when I started thinking about it logically. Then at about 15-16 I got online and started seeing other's take on it. Atheism is a lot more prevalent online because people don't have to worry about the social rejection. From there on is where I picked up on the basic logic of it. Of how religion was lacking logic, skepticism, and so forth. I obviously had some level of skepticism when I was 12, but I honestly didn't understand the basic logic of it. The "anything's possible, but because of that, we need proof to tell us what is." Needless to say, I still pretended I believed, and went all the way through the communion. A little while after, right before I graduated high school, I told my mom and I no longer pretend. I'm no longer a little pussy about it. My Mom's really into God and shit. Fucking shit, it's always "God this...and God that..." Anyway, as for what I believe in? Anything that is logically valid/makes sense/has proof behind it. Really that simple. As far as principles to live by goes.. I really don't care about a lot of things regarding that nature. But there are some I do. Like not being a pussy. I like that, a lot. Always being true to yourself, never truly backing down, shit like that. this was basically my way of reasoning too, except that i never did communion or whatever. I just believed in god cause my parents said it existed. Then i started thinking for myself...
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Post by Freya on Feb 16, 2012 21:13:32 GMT -5
i don't believe in god but i have a horrible feeling that if i'd die i'd go to hell. its like i really dont believe in god but if he does exist so does Satan and i'd prolly get sent to hell for not believing even though I am a good person and never really done anything terrible.
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Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Feb 16, 2012 21:35:27 GMT -5
i don't believe in god but i have a horrible feeling that if i'd die i'd go to hell. its like i really dont believe in god but if he does exist so does Satan and i'd prolly get sent to hell for not believing even though I am a good person and never really done anything terrible. If you're a good person, you're supposed to go to Limbo, which isn't supposed to be that bad compared to the 'ninth ring'.
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Post by mundus on Feb 16, 2012 23:05:51 GMT -5
Fuck this shit. Just skimmed, But I believe when you die, there's something else there for you. Not "your brain just shut's off" bullshit. I can't afford to think elsewhere. Good or bad, nothing should determine or judge what you do, my thoughts on it all are so scattered that its hard to put a finger on what i believe.
I care little on this though, too complex of a category.
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Post by βeηrγ on Feb 17, 2012 13:50:39 GMT -5
I think of it this way: If there exists a God and he's made us by his image or whatever, than he cannot except us to believe that he exists without proof. Maybe the people who will go to hell will be those who believe without any proof and us non-believers will actually go to heaven lol
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