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Post by DawgX on Dec 4, 2011 17:09:06 GMT -5
After reading through a lot of different post in the regions, i've realized that a lot of you make it seem like your character still feels pain while wearing the suit.
Suit + Getting slammed into a wall = NO PAIN!
Probably the only thing your character will feel is a slight pressure from the impact, other than that no pain!
If Character A is thrown and hits his head on a car, then a truck runs over his body, HE WILL BE FINE! No blacking out! No dizziness! NO PAIN!
;D
The Gantz suits are an amazing weapon! Use them well guys!
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Post by Haloninjaman808 on Dec 4, 2011 17:10:09 GMT -5
Also saying that anyone using the suits will not feel pain from other things if the suit functions. But they can feel internal pain, like a headache from drug or psychic usage.
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Post by DawgX on Dec 4, 2011 17:12:18 GMT -5
Thats correct. As long as the suit is functioning then no pain or discomfort will be felt.
Psychic attacks, drugs, drowning, smoke, etc. can still negatively affect someone wearing the suit while its functioning.
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Post by Жenophilius on Dec 5, 2011 15:59:18 GMT -5
And G-Swords. They can cut through a fully functional suit.
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Post by βeηrγ on Dec 5, 2011 18:12:03 GMT -5
fear dem g-sword bitches!
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Post by DawgX on Dec 5, 2011 21:55:10 GMT -5
And G-Swords. They can cut through a fully functional suit. Actually no. As you can see it only damages the suit, not slash through it.
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Post by Fay on Dec 6, 2011 2:55:47 GMT -5
Actually, it's unknown whether the G-sword can pierce the suit in one shot. Those were psychics, and as such they have better durability than the average Gantz hunter. They could have been putting a skin-tight force field around the area blocking Izumi's tremendously strong sword swings.
Recently, someone with an otherwise full working suit had their arm cut off by the dude in your sig/avvy. Now, this could have been for a few different reasons given the situation, so the theory that the G-sword cannot cut through the suit entirely is still valid, however, with the present evidence and given the situation with Izumi and the psychics, it is unknown nonetheless.
Also, the Gantz suit can block psychic attacks as well. It took Nuri a second or two before Old Man's suit broke, showing that it had to break the suit before getting to the person inside it. That being said, when Izumi fought the psychics, it was implied that they could have killed him by directly bypassing the suit and attacking an organ. Though, it's really vauge because maybe they did try but the suit wouldn't let them, but Izumi still felt the strange manner of attack and effect it had, and decided that he wouldn't want them trying again. Hence the "try it again and I'll take off your head."
I really wonder if the advanced Gantz suit is completely immune to psychic attacks. Like, let's say if pissed off Sakurai was up against Advanced Suit Oka, what would happen?
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Post by Жenophilius on Dec 6, 2011 13:46:57 GMT -5
And G-Swords. They can cut through a fully functional suit. Actually no. As you can see it only damages the suit, not slash through it. gantzplayers.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gatm&action=display&thread=58It clearly states that a G-Sword can cut through a fully functional Gantz Suit, and before Izumi was probably hitting them with the flat end of the blade. As for the suits being able to block Psychic attacks, I'm not sure. That's really vague.
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Post by Fay on Dec 6, 2011 18:41:45 GMT -5
Everything is vague and unknown here, that's the problem.
Why the heck would Izumi hit them with the flat end of the sword the entire time? And if he didn't hit them with the flat end of the sword the entire time, then why did both of their suits eventually break? From one hit with the flat end each?
That Gantz manual page couldn't have been mistranslated? For all we know Oku could care less about what they put into the thing.
Point is, there's plenty of things not (properly) explained in the manga. This is another one of them.
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Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Dec 6, 2011 18:51:18 GMT -5
Everything is vague and unknown here, that's the problem. Why the heck would Izumi hit them with the flat end of the sword the entire time? And if he didn't hit them with the flat end of the sword the entire time, then why did both of their suits eventually break? From one hit with the flat end each? That Gantz manual page couldn't have been mistranslated? For all we know Oku could care less about what they put into the thing. Point is, there's plenty of things not (properly) explained in the manga. This is another one of them. If Gantz had a novel, there'd 'prolly be more information about everything and it'd be more exact. Instead, you just have drawings that don't show every detail and hypotheses.
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Post by DawgX on Dec 6, 2011 20:15:58 GMT -5
Izumi would have no reason to hit them with the flat side. He was definitely hitting them with the blade. The suits didn't break. And Psychic shield in just one little area to block a sword strike? I doubt it.
They were trying to peer into his skull and kill his brain while at the same time putting up a telekinetic shield to protect them AND trying to use their X-Guns to fire at him? Yeah, no.
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Post by Fay on Dec 6, 2011 23:29:15 GMT -5
If Gantz had a novel, there'd 'prolly be more information about everything and it'd be more exact. Instead, you just have drawings that don't show every detail and hypotheses. Agreed. Actually, sometimes I like that all the info isn't spoon fed to you like it is with most shounen manga. It seems more realistic. That being said, I do wonder if Oku actually has a good idea about how the tech works/limitations/how his manga universe works in general or if he's more on the casual, careless side and kind of just goes with the flow making up facts and limitations as he goes along. He was definitely hitting them with the blade. The suits didn't break. But the the suit DID rip instantly with Sekine. They were trying to peer into his skull and kill his brain while at the same time putting up a telekinetic shield to protect them AND trying to use their X-Guns to fire at him? Yeah, no. Of course not. If they were doing/could do all that at the same time Izumi would be fucking dead. They alternated. First they dodged, then they fired, and at the end when they realized "hand to hand" combat wasn't the best choice they went for their "psychic insta-kill." It's not too amazing that once they realized the sword was about to hit them they put up a shield, considering the fact that Sakata was able to react to bullets. Literally, the fucker was catching bullets. His arms were down at his side, the bullet was then fired, and by the time it reached him he had his arm up and caught it dead on. On top of the durability to be able to tank machine gun bullets, psychics also have faster reflexes. And to make things even more fucking confusing, as Sakata was trying to "insta-kill" Izumi, his suit broke, and right after that Izumi sliced him dead on, making a gash in the suit and a cut.....BUT, this is fucking Izumi we're talking about. Sakata would have been shreded like paper if the suit wasn't working, nothing so minor as a bit of bleeding. Was the suit barely working still, even when the juice ran out? Or a quick weak psychic shield by Sakata? Or maybe the failed "insta-kill" weakened Izumi's attack. Either which way, once again -logically, things are still very fucking vauge.
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Post by UlrichAcheronNacht on Dec 6, 2011 23:40:51 GMT -5
I personally think Oku just makes shit up as he goes. It works, though.
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Post by Fay on Dec 11, 2011 16:14:41 GMT -5
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